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Post by Ryuku on Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:45 pm

Elements

- The elements that your character has indicate what Jutsu you are capable of using. For example, a character specializing in Fire and Lightning, for example, is only capable of performing Jutsu that have a Fire or Lightning element. All characters can use Jutsu with no element.

- Basic Elements: Fire [Katon], Water[Suiton], Wind[Fuuton], Earth [Doton], Lightning [Raiton]
-  Everyone can choose one basic element at Academy Student rank, and then a second basic element at Chuunin rank.

- In addition to the elements you choose at Academy Student Rank, each character can utilize an advanced element through a bloodline. This third element MUST either be a combination of your two basic elements, or an enhanced version of one of your two basic elements. An example of a combination of elements: Fire + Earth = Lava. An example of an enhanced version of a basic element: Earth basic element ---> Sand enhanced element.

- Here are some of the Advanced Elements that you may choose: Wood [Mokuton], Crystal [Shoton], Lava [Youton], Light[Hikariton], Metal [Kouton], Sand [Sunaton], Smoke/Ash [Haiton], Ice [Hyouton], Steam [Futton], Steel [Kouton], Storm [Ranton], Magnet [Jiton]

- PLEASE NOTE that this advanced elements list does not list ALL of the possible advanced elements. You are free to come up with or use an advanced element that is NOT in this list for your bloodline.


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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:36 pm

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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by AiKirika on Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:39 pm

i think we should rethink the "Bloodline exclusive Elements"

first... i dont like it that they are BL exclusiv.
i like to call them advanced or enhanced elements
of course... those elements are usually part of a BL... but DK mentioned special spirit quest that would enhance the chars strength is some way.
one way could be by awakening a 3rd element, which can beone of the advanced elements... if it makes sense
e.g. someone who uses water and earth, the spirits would awaken his hidden affinity to wood.

second... the elements themselves
Ice- yes,
Wood - yes,
Crystal - ?,i think i remeber there was something like this
Lava - yes,
Poison - ?, would you actually call this an element?
Light - yes,
Shadow - yes,
Sand- this is just earth... sand is nothing else but tiny stones, or maybe distinguish between earth and stone?

maybe a few others
metal?
particle?
smoke/ash?

maybe only define the most obvious ones (known from naruto)... and give the users a chance to suggest more elements

Advanced Elements: Light, Shadow, Ice, Wood, Lava, Crystal - more Elements are up for suggestion
Advanced Elements can be part of a Bloodline or can get optained through special quests

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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:04 am

Fixed. Though I do want to mention that the first element a person picks should be done with bloodline in mind. For example, If I create a smoke-based bloodline I choose smoke as my primary element. And then I'd choose something like Fire as my secondary later on. That's my opinion at least. Do you agree?

I guess the other scenario would be choosing one element, and then having another element from your bloodline. A bit OP having two bloodlines to start off with though, I think.
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by DragonKnight on Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:45 am

The bloodline enhancement or secondary bloodline a spirit gives will not be random... it will be clearly designed for that specific character and his style of rping along with his thoughts on it...
ryu, when a person takes a bloodline it's done when going through his character creation process... there's no real issue over changing elements there, so it makes sense for him to have a basic element he wants and knowing his bloodline later unlck the second and his bloodline element along with it... it just works... do u disagree? To be clear, I don't think I understood exactly what you mean in your post...
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:58 am

I mean, a person with a crystal based bloodline would choose crystal as their primary element as opposed to having both Crystal and another element(fire, for example) when they create their character.
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by DragonKnight on Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:48 am

Well, in naruto chakra theory 101 (XD), every advanced element is made by using two or more chakra elements at once, so the ninja has to know how to use them... if u guys want to abolish that system and have rpers take their bloodline element first, I have no real problem as long as the advanced elements are only available with the conditions u state above in ur first post from quests and bloodlines... just be clear about it, coz I'm getting mixed messages
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by AiKirika on Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:59 am

i thought the first element would be the one from their BL
if their BL is wood then their secondary and evetual tertiary elemnet would need to be water and earth

but its right... usually those advances elements are some sort of combination or root in the basic elements
wood= water, earth
lava= fire, earth
crystal= light and earth???
ice= water...

light and shadow though are not rooted in those... they are actually in a way basic ö-ö superior elements??
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:24 pm

It seems weird to go backwards though. Start bending wood and then later on use earth/water?
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by AiKirika on Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:12 pm

lol true... but how did yamato did it?
i cant rememebr him ever using water or earth jutsu.. only wood
haku also only used ice
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:25 pm

^True. That's why I suggest we just let people choose an element based on bloodline, and then allow them to choose another element from the basic 5 at later. Then perhaps a third from events/quests.

Or, a person could also base their bloodline off of a basic element like Fire, and then choose another basic element like Water as their secondary later.
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by AiKirika on Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:44 pm

thats how i thought too
i just did want them to be BL exclusiv per se (through special quests available too)
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by DragonKnight on Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:38 pm

Then to sum up, we keep the element system from naruto intact? Have them develop elements and advanced elements like naruto? What changes do you propose right now?
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:42 pm

No, we abandon the naruto element system.
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by AiKirika on Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:51 pm

pls explain
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:40 pm

DragonKnight wrote:Well, in naruto chakra theory 101 (XD), every advanced element is made by using two or more chakra elements at once, so the ninja has to know how to use them... if u guys want to abolish that system and have rpers take their bloodline element first, I have no real problem as long as the advanced elements are only available with the conditions u state above in ur first post from quests and bloodlines... just be clear about it, coz I'm getting mixed messages
This is what we are going away from. We won't have them learn two basic elements to make an advanced element, we will just treat each element as an individual element. The difference between the normal and advanced elements will be that Advanced Elements can only be gained at creation from bloodline, or from quests/events. I will give you a few possible scenarios that could happen:

Character 1: Creates an individual, metal-based bloodline. Metal is their first element. At Chuunin, they have the option to select another element from the five basic elements. They choose Fire.

Character 2: Joins a clan at creation that has a Water-based bloodline. Water is their primary element. At Chuunin, they have the option to select another element from the basic five. They choose Wind.

Both characters can gain a third element from quests/events. The alternative wouldn't make sense. If a character has a bloodline based off of an advanced element, then if we force them to learn and combine two basic elements first, they won't be able to use their bloodline's element until Chuunin, which is silly. Starting with the advanced and then learning the elements that combine to create the advanced element wouldn't make sense either.
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by AiKirika on Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:13 pm

ok got it.... thats how i thought it would be...

though orignally i thought if they have a advanced elemnt fromt heir BL they could use it from the beginning... but after becoming chuunin they would choose one of the basic elements their BL is consistent of...

or did i get that wrong?
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:19 pm

AiKirika wrote:ok got it.... thats how i thought it would be...

though orignally i thought if they have a advanced elemnt fromt heir BL they could use it from the beginning... but after becoming chuunin they would choose one of the basic elements their BL is consistent of...

or did i get that wrong?
I think it would be better to just let them choose any secondary element, whether it has to do with their first element or not. Like Wood first, then lightning after.
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by AiKirika on Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:25 pm

what about light and shadow?
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:47 pm

What about them? We'll treat them the same way as the other advanced elements. As individual elements.
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:22 pm

I think we need to rethink the specializations...it doesn't make sense for a Gen specialist to learn two elements.

What other advantages should they have?
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by AiKirika on Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:33 pm


i think i remneber some chars in naruto using element based illusions.
so saying they dont need those elements.. i dont know... ö-ö

by the way... you suggested in some other thread to limit the types of jutsu one is able to use...
like if someone is ninjutsu user... they can only have x amount of gen/taijutsu max.
you havent mentioned this here
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:45 pm

^Forgot about that, will do that now.
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by DragonKnight on Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:31 am

Say, a genjutsu specialist, instead of learning one additional element could maybe have access to one or two more S-Rank genjutsu jutsus? Or maybe he could have a specific mechanic that lets some of his jutsus alternate between illusion and reality, like he has made a clone, if he is about to die, he can expend a large amount of chakra to make his clone a real body and his soul can move in that body instead? Or he could have made imaginary fireballs that are targeting his enemy and make one real when one is about to hit him?
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Re: Guide: Elements

Post by Ryuku on Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:34 am

I updated this. Tell me what should be changed.
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